Last week saw two major security events take place: the annual Black Hat and DEF CON conferences in Las Vegas. I was in attendance and had the chance to meet with a lot of the world’s top security experts and thought leaders and check out a couple presentations, to boot.

I also got a chance to sit down with one of my favorite security writers: Chris Gonsalves, who writes (among other responsibilities) for the Institute of Applied Network Security (or IANS). Chris and I talked about the goings on at Black Hat, which included a further addition to the car hacking exploits of Charlie Miller and Chris Valasek. We also had the chance to talk about the upcoming Forum.

You can listen to our conversation here.